We at Grey Zone Paranormal would like to welcome Rex Williams and thank him for taking the time to talk with us a bit about the field and his experiences on and off DESTINATION TRUTH.
How did you come to be the medic for the Destination Truth team?
I obtained an agent in Los Angeles and began working as a Set Medic on TV shows, commercials, music videos, and movies. The Executive Producer of Destination Truth contacted my agent looking for a medic to work on the show. I had several interviews with the producers of the show, including Josh Gates, and the network executives at Syfy. I was extremely nervous but ended up getting the job.
What has been your most favorite and least favorite location the show has gone to?
Egypt was my absolute favorite country to investigate. Although, Bhutan is a close second place because of its sheer beauty. Egypt has so much history and mystery. Exploring the tombs of ancient Kings was like stepping backward in time. I recall gazing in amazement over the mummies in the Egyptian Museum of Antiquities in Cairo. Exodus came to mind. I knew at that moment that I was surrounded by artifacts as old as, or older than, the Bible itself. Another moment I will never forget.. standing in the shadow of the Pyramid of Giza (also called the Pyramid of Khufu and the Pyramid of Cheops). However, nothing compared to sharing the darkness of King Tutankhamun's tomb with the dead Pharaoh himself. I sat alone at one point, in the middle of the night, inches away from his mummified corpse, and locked inside his tomb. Can we say nightmares anyone?
Are you a person who had an interest in the paranormal to begin with or did you just sort of get thrown in with a paranormal group?
Have you ever had any paranormal experiences before the show? If so tell us about them.
I was a young boy, around 13 or 14 years old, when I experienced something terrifying and paranormal in the forest. My parents would take me to the Sierra Nevada mountains of California every summer for vacation. On one particular morning I got up and stepped outside of our old rustic cabin in the woods. I looked up, squinting my eyes as the sunlight was showing brightly through the trees. The tall Pine trees were casting shadows and as I looked down something caught my eye. I saw a dark figure standing there about 75 yards away in the dark shadows. It was tall with long arms like an ape and built like a man. But I knew this was no human. Nor was it a bear. I had seen many bears over the years. I stood paralyzed with fear for a few moments, not taking a breath, and feeling my heart beating hard in my chest. It was though this mysterious figure and I were frozen, staring at each other. I quickly ran back inside the old cabin, not wanting to look back, fearing I would feel a large hand grab me and pull me into the forest. I never spoke a word of this to my parents.
What is the creepiest thing that happened during the show taping?
We were investigating reports of werewolves that were purportedly terrifying the residents of a small town in Romania. Nearly all the residents had picked up and left their homes in fear, leaving the town almost completely abandoned. We set up Base Camp near the town’s church. I was alone, stringing out Infrared cameras a few hundred meters from camp when I heard a large animal in the tree line behind me. First I heard twigs and branches cracking in the darkness, then a deep growl. I froze and looked up into the night sky. My breath rose in the cold air and glowed from the light of the full moon above me. After a few minutes that seemed like hours, I could hear the animal moving farther away from me into the forest. This was a main course of creepy with a side of s#*t my pants.
What were the best and worst aspects of being a medic for a paranormal television show that traveled to exotic locations?
Well, Destination Truth isn't like most shows. In fact, that's partly what makes DT so special. Our show doesn't travel with a large production crew like other shows. We are a lean crew of 8 team members and each person wears many hats during the film trek. For example, take my position. I am the team "medic" but my role involves much more. I am also an investigator. Therefore, functioning as a medic/investigator for this type of paranormal show is extensive. Everyone on the team is responsible for care and movement of gear, record keeping, the set-up and break-down of equipment during an investigation, team safety, and making a great TV show. It is much easier to get a smaller group of people to some of these distant locations. Especially since we are typically required to hike over rough terrain, rappel down cliffs, kayak or raft through treacherous waters, explore caverns, or SCUBA dive just to get there. If you love adventure activities, this is the best aspect of the job.
The major negative aspects of the job relate to the extreme dangers of these locations and adventures. I am responsible for the care and well-being of everyone on the team. The threat of disease/infection, poisonous insects & animals, wildlife predators, etc., demands a large amount of pre-planning for any emergency that may take place. These responsibilities produce high stress.
How much do you believe of the various myths you’ve heard during your work with the show?
I believe that most of these myths are based on some amount of truth. That doesn’t necessarily mean they are 100% accurate. Misidentification of animals may be a factor in some reports. Also, most myths or legends have some type of purpose behind them. A story passed along through generations could have been used as a teaching tool. For example, a story related to a monster living in the jungle could have been used to keep children from venturing out alone into the jungle where there are very real and explainable dangers.
There are a few myths that I believe may have some real truth behind them. One in particular is the Yeti. The evidence I have seen is compelling.
Who was the most accident prone on the show?
Without a doubt, Ryder. She has become rather fearless after having gained much experience in the field. Of course, she gets startled at times but so does even the bravest of us. Ryder is one tough lady
Did you ever feel like some of the things the team did were too dangerous?
Absolutely, yes! For example, we investigated a small haunted island prison in Central America. It was mostly jungle and filled with snakes. One snake in particular is so venomous that a bite can be fatal to an adult within 20 minutes. Not good when you are at least 90 minutes away by air from the closest hospital.
What are your thoughts on groups like ours who investigate the paranormal?
I believe that the more qualified and professional groups we have out in the field doing responsible research the better. No matter what your experience or skill level, everyone plays an important role in reaching a common goal. That is, obtaining as much understanding of the paranormal as possible, to find answers, to find the truth. So even the newest members of a paranormal research group, or people who participate as a hobby are equally important. We all had to start somewhere. If this is something you are passionate about then do it, and do it well.
Aside from the show, Is this something you do on your own? Or was it just on the show?
I am a member of a paranormal research team here in California, aside from the show. This is something I love to do and I have made some really great friends doing it. So during my off-time between filming seasons I participate in investigations all over the U.S.
What does your family think about the paranormal aspect of what you do?
My family is mixed in their views of the paranormal. Some are quite intrigued by it and very supportive. Others are more skeptical and think its a waste of time.
What advice can you give to groups starting out?
Be organized, professional, and open to other’s methods and ideas. There should be no competition between paranormal groups. Like I said, we should all be working together for a common goal. Take pride in what you do and work hard. But most of all, be safe!
What has been your personal best piece of evidence?
I would have to say the hair sample we found in Bhutan during our Yeti investigation. The DNA analysis of the hair proved to be from an unknown-type primate. This was the most compelling evidence I have seen.
Is there a location you wouldn't go to?
I don’t think there is anywhere on the planet that I would not go. Anything could be possible with the right equipment and planning. Of course, doing an investigation on the rim of an active volcano would be foolhardy and much to dangerous. But in more practical areas, of course I would participate.
Who is someone in the field you look up to and why?
Of course that would have to be Joshua Gates. He has the passion and skills for investigating the paranormal. I have worked with him on dozens of investigations and he has taught me quite a bit. Also, the guy is hilarious!
Favorite piece of equipment, also which do you deem most reliable?
My favorite piece of equipment is the Thermal Imaging Camera. I mean, its just so cool to see animals only by their heat signatures in the darkness of the jungle. I have always thought that the most reliable equipment is your brain. Sure, your mind can play tricks on you. But using all your senses while investigating is vital and can tell you more about your environment than the most complex electrical instruments.
Recommended reads or websites?
Read as much as you can, as often as you can. There are no specific texts I would recommend. However, the more knowledge you obtain in this field the better prepared you will be when you investigate. Also, check out paranormal websites and get a feeling of all the different viewpoints and ideas their members present.
Cryptozoology is a subject the general public are skeptical about, what do you say to these people? Also, have you ever encountered any solid evidence that some of these "myth" creatures exist?
First of all, I consider myself an open-minded skeptic. I need to see reliable scientific evidence before coming to any conclusion. That being said, I am open to the possibility that these creatures exist. New species of plants and animals are being discovered all over the world. So it is wrong to say there is no possible way something undiscovered can exist.
Evidence we have collected consists of foot print castings, hair/DNA samples, audio recordings, etc., all of which have been important. Each piece of evidence alone has only some benefit but when you add all the evidence we have collected together, it can be very compelling. Yet, the scientific community today still requires more and more solid evidence.
Any last words or something you would like to promote in closing?
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We would like to welcome and thank Debra Pickman who lived in the infamous "Sallie House" in Atchison, Kansas for taking the time to answer some of our questions in this Interview. We just want to clear up some possible misleadings as well as ask questions that the general public may have about the "Sallie House". This home has been featured in various paranormal shows and have had a few variations of the history, also the home is considered the most haunted house in America.
What did you learn if anything about old cemetery records of Sallie?
The Sallie Isabel Hall, thought to be “our” Sallie was actually a grown colored woman who had lived around the corner from the Sallie house. We have yet to be able to verify the existence of a 7 year old girl named Sallie ( which is also known to be a nick name for Sarah)
How did your experience/story lead to media attention?
The psychic, Barbara Connor, who was the first to help us, actually grew up in our little town of Atchison. She had since moved to California and for years had given talks at one of the universities on the paranormal. During these talks she presented our case (all the while keeping our identities private) There was so much interest in our case and the photos she showcased, that she was approached by several television shows wanting to know more. She contacted us with their inquiries and warned us that if we went public to get the help they were offering, our lives would never be the same. She also suggested if we chose to do so, we should go with a smaller television group because they would be less noticed by the town folk. We were very concerned about how our small town would react to our going public and the ridicule that would surely come. After discussing the pros and cons we decided that we did need the help that was being offered and gave her permission to give our contact information to Sightings. Our lives have never, and will never, be the same.
Debra, what are your opinions, or your version of the history of the house?
The land was originally owned by two brothers who eventually fought horribly over their holdings. The courts got involved to divide the land and it was ultimately sold of in smaller plots. When the town was settled this land was sold to the Finney family who built what was to be one of the first houses to be built in town. The Sallie house was built between 1858 and 1872 (historical records are ambiguous) The Finney family owned this and many other plots of which they built houses on and rented most. There were two doctors in the family, neither of which practiced out of the house. One family member became the Mayor of Atchison. He was an eccentric man with strange interests and habits and at one point he was removed from his official duties. There may have been some dabbling in the occult or spiritualistic elements, after all it was the fashionable thing during this time period.
There was also a woman that lived next door, Joanne Barnes, who was ostracized by her husband, for reasons unknown. She was committed and released from a mental institution on at least two occasions. Eventually she moved to Kansas city and either intentionally or inadvertently killed her 7 year old son. In earlier years, while she lived in Atchison, she also abandoned her young girls and went west. We actually believe that this is the matriarchal spirit in the house. We theorize that she may have been bipolar and/or sensitive to spirits. It is also theorized that after her release from the hospital the Finney doctor may have been responsible for her care and supervision.
We were told by a reputable investigation group that the Indians, prior to the town being settled, avoided the land that the Sallie house sit on; called it tainted. This is significant behavior because the land is prime land for the nomadic life of Indians; especially being so close to the Missouri River and all it had to offer.
In 1958 the Finney family sold off most of their property; the Sallie house was sold/gifted for a nominal amount to a family member who owned and lived in it for many years. S since then, the house was owned by several individuals until it was bought by its current owner 6 months prior to Tony and I renting it in 1992.
Two previous families that lived in the house reported strange occurrences, after seeing the house on the television show Sightings. One report concerned an unexplained fire in the nursery, another details an “imaginary” friend that a child played with and blamed for messes and activity.
It is theorized that the negative energy we experienced in this house was there long before the house was built and that it negatively influenced and damaged individuals and relationships of those that lived on the land; specifically Joann Barnes, members of the Finney family and Tony and I.
We understand these events took place long ago and there have been a few different stories told about it. How accurate are the different television show depictions of what happened?
When watching any televised depiction of an event or experiences one has to understand that there is a certain level of creative liberty taken by the television producer; after all, their goal is ratings. With that being said, Sighting did an amazing job of bring to the public some of the events that occurred while we lived there. Unfortunately, it was better for ratings to blame it all on a little girl rather than share the information that there were other spirits in the house and perhaps they too were responsible for some of the strange activity we encountered. Another televised show, that maintained a great level of integrity concerning the facts and true representation of the facts, was Paramount’s, made-for-TV movie, The Heartland Ghost. Of course they had to have a back story for the real life events that took place and that was based on an early theory of Sallie being born from an out of wedlock relationship between the eccentric doctor and the household help; specifically the black woman named Sallie Hall, who lived just around the corner from where the Sallie house sat. Other than those two televised depictions of our story, we have been greatly disappointed by the representation that has been put out there for public consumption. This is why, over the years, we have gravitated to doing radio interviews, lectures and conferences; we can better give the public factual information unencumbered by ulterior motives.
For anyone wanting a detailed representation of our experiences I invite them to visit our website at http://www.thesalliehouse.com or to read my recently published book, The Sallie House Haunting, a true story.
Who bought toys for Sallie? What were they? Do you still own them, and if so, have you ever considered auctioning them or selling them?
Our neighbors were the first to bring toys for Sallie; two dolls that were once played with by their own children. I bought a little boy doll, as an appeasement to Sallie in attempt to entice her to leave our newborn son alone. She had been waking him almost hourly every night since he had come home from the hospital. After moving from the house, and to this day, investigators have come and each group has brought toys for Sallie. The toys, even the ones we bought, have all been left at the house.
We currently have a box full of items that were acted upon by the spirit activity in the house and although we have entertained the thought of auctioning these artifacts and giving the proceeds to charitable causes, we cannot be sure of the attachments that these items may have. To error on the side of caution we decided long ago that we would not make any of these items available to the public other than allowing them to be viewed in our own home.
In your opinion, why does the older female spirit seem to be such a negative entity?
Its hard to say and there are many theories out there. One is that Tony reminded her of a person she knew in life. Another is that perhaps Tony had an element or an energy that she was either drawn to and wanted to be noticed by him or that she was fearful of his energy. Yet another presents the idea that the female spirit, as well as the other spirits in the house, are simply being used as a shield or a facade by a darker force within the house.
Something a lot of people wonder is, if one house is so very haunted, why are the direct neighbors often left alone? What is your take on this phenomena?
Not sure the neighboring houses have been left unscathed. One previous resident of the Sallie house actually rented the house just to the south and reported there was much more activity in it; sounds, footsteps etc… The house just to the north has also reported, from a few residents, minor activity.
There are situation though where distinct activity is evident in one house and does not affect areas beyond its walls. This could be relative to the specific land it sits on, or perhaps a traumatic activity that took place within it walls. To my knowledge, and in reviewing historical records and news articles, no traumatic event ever took place within the walls of the Sallie house.
Have there been any more psychics and mediums to examine the house since Peter James did? If so, did they confirm his findings, or did they differ?
Over the years since we moved out of the house there have been countless investigative groups and individuals who have visited the house, many of which have been proclaimed as psychics. I can’t tell you how many varied impressions these individuals have expressed concerning the events and the spirits of this house. The details of which don’t often seem to correlate with the facts or experiences that have been had there. The consensus of most psychics seems to be that there is a distinct negative presence in the house, one that means harm, has a tendency to bring about negative influences and one than should be left alone.
Have you heard of similar paranormal events happening to tenants who lived in the house after your family?
I know of one family who had paranormal activity; noises, apparitions, and the movement of objects, but of which the details are sparse.
Did anything paranormal occur in the house that was not covered by the television shows?
Sightings covered the paranormal events as they happened and while the crew was in the house, but there was not enough time on the television show to air all the events. Words being scratched into Tony’s skin, his shirt catching fire in front of the crew while Peter was challenging the spirit in the master bedroom, static electricity being felt by members of the crew, distinct smells of floras and perfumes were some paranormal activity that the show just didn’t have the time to incorporate into the shows given timeframe.
In addition to that, there is a plethora of events that occurred in the house outside the Sightings investigations and of which were not witnessed by the team and were not focused on in the televised segments that aired. These events are greatly detailed in my book, The Sallie House Haunting a true story.
Have you and your family had paranormal experiences before you moved into this home, and since you’ve moved out?
Tony had a horrifying experience when he was younger, of a gaunt white faced and boney fingered male figure peeking out from behind the sliding closet door of his childhood bedroom and laughing sinisterly at him. It scared him so bad that he never went back into that room.
I personally never encountered any paranormal events prior to living in the Sallie house.
Over the years since moving from the house, Tony and I have gone back to investigate the Sallie house and other locations. We occasionally have paranormal events in our own home and have correlated many of the disturbing occurrences to times when the Sallie House is being investigated by challenging individuals. It seems we reap the repercussions of their efforts to confront and call out the negative spirits that are there.
Were you given any sort of paranormal history about the house while looking to rent it that you may have shrugged off as nonsense?
As far as we know there was no known paranormal or questionable history on the house when we chose to rent it. We had no idea of what we were in for or how it would change our lives in the months to come.
Did the haunting begin immediately upon moving into the house, or did it take a while to manifest over months?
We moved into the house on December 31st 1992 and it was about a month later that we began noticing strange activity; mostly electrical interference such as oven and microwave timers going off, the ceiling light dimming by itself, noises on the stairs as we slept, etc…. Unfortunately, and as no one really looks for paranormal activity in their home, it was not recognized as such at that time.
In the scene in "A Haunting" where the teddy bear flies off the chair at Tony’s brother while he is taking a picture, did that really happen that way? What other objects were thrown?
The bear did not actually fly at Tony’s brother. It did however, spin on the table where it sat as they were taking a picture and inviting “Sally” to be in the photo. Seeing this activity with their own eyes, caused quiet an emotional disturbance in both of them.
There was a baby’s pacifier thrown across the room and under a table that several people were sitting at; it happened to be on fire as well. On another occasion a small clay jar was thrown at the wall. Interesting thing was it was not thrown in a straight line; it actually rounded the corner and then flew to hit the wall just over a friends head. There were other instances where objects were picked up and floated in the air. One time it was an oil lamp that moved about 7 feet across the room before dropping to the floor. On another occasion, a teddy bear, that had been sitting on a table across the room, was dropped on an individual that was sleeping on the couch.
In “A Haunting” it appears that at one point the scratches on Tony’s back appear before your eyes, is that accurate? In your opinion, why was nobody else physically attacked?
Yes, scratches would seemingly just appear on Tony. He rarely felt them as they happened, and our attention to them was only because of the blood that was produced from the wound. During one Sightings investigation an investigator was looking at a scratch on his torso from the previous day, it was at that instant that a new scratch began to form. There is actually 9 minutes of raw footage that covers this event. During another investigation when Kerry Gaynor was observing Tony and sitting within a few feet of him, he was witnessed what seemed to be instant scratches just appear on his body. This was actually very frustrating to Kerry, as he was unable to detect any reason for them or any presence in the room that may have caused them.
When Peter James entered the upstairs bedroom it is depicted as being a repelling force, did you experience that first hand?
I don’t think that Tony or I ever felt a repelling force such as what Peter did in the master bedroom. Perhaps it is because Peter was trying to directly confront it and it did not want to be acknowledged or communicated with by Peter.
Did Tony physically see the older female spirit, and if so what did she look like?
Yes, Tony saw at least two older female spirits in the house. The first time he reports that it looked like me in 18th century clothing. It’s hair was up in a bun and it was wearing a hat. The other female he saw is described as looking like the mercantile owner on Little House on the Prairie.
What was the final straw that made you and your family say "we need to go now!!!"
Tony’s mood began to change and negative thoughts about me and hurting me flooded his head. I didn’t realize this until well after we moved out. The only relief he got from these feelings is when he was gone from the house. I remember him telling me one day that he thought someone was gonna get hurt badly and that he thought it was going to be me. I had no capacity to believe this because nothing negative even happened to me in the house, all negativity seemed to be focused on Tony. The next day, while Tony was standing in the doorway of the master bedroom he was shoved toward the rafiling with such force that his feet left the floor and his knees knocked out several rungs from the guard rail of the stairwell. He has no idea what stopped him from going over it and headlong down the flight of stairs. It was in hearing this and feeling that a new and distinctly dangerous element had presented to us, I finally realized the danger that Tony was in and perhaps the rest of our family as well. That was the day we decided to move.
Would you ever consider going back to the home? if so why if not why?
Beginning in early 2004, I went back to the housed to investigate with other paranormal groups. I wanted answers, I wanted understanding, and perhaps I even wanted a personal experience. In mid 2005, Tony began attending investigations at the house. The first few he stay only a short time, as he would encounter small scratches or burns on his body. In the months to come, he suffered no injury during investigation and often stayed in the house for hours. Sometimes he stayed into the wee hours of the night without incident.
Even though there was still paranormal activity during the investigations, there seemed to be a level of comfort because he was no longer being attacked. This continued until August 18th 2007 when he was brutally attacked. Tony was hit by a force that he describes as a Mac truck hitting him in the chest. I actually witnessed him being lifted about a foot off the floor and thrown backwards into the wall 4 feet behind him. His steel toe work boots remained on the floor where he originally stood. The cell phone at his hip was melted, the batteries in the camera he was holding were charred. As he lay on the floor struggling to get up, which was apparent by the veins popping to the surface in his neck, the other investigator and I chanted “in the name of God release him!” What seemed like several minutes later, Tony was released and able to stand. We shuffled him down the stairs and out the front door, grabbed our equipment, and turned out the light as we made our exodus. When we drove to the riverfront less than a mile away and upon Tony reporting that his stomach was burning, we had him lift his shirt. He was covered with scratches. I think we counted 90 on his front and back.
We have no plans to ever go back to the house. There is nothing there to answer the questions we have had and the entities there are manipulative, destructive and extremely dangerous.
The pentagram on the floor of the basement, whats the story?
This is not a question I want to answer in detail, as knowledge of it may bring in undesirable individuals and harmful results to them and to us. Save it to say that it did not exist when we lived in the house and when it was discovered by the owner, he evicted the tenant and then spray painted over it.
There was a scene on a Haunting if Im correct where Tony was somewhat possessed to do harm to you and it got to the point where he hacked the door in and you called the police? is this the same story and if so what happened?
Tony never hacked a door in, I think that scene was replicated from The Shinning. LOL But yes, Tony was influenced to the level of what many believe to be a state of possession.
I remember a day when he had fallen asleep on the couch and suddenly sat straight up, looked at me and said, “He’s mine!”. Then he laid back down. My first thought was that he had been dreadming about someone taking his son away from him, but the more I thought about it, I realized there was something not right about the words he spoke. There was something about it that was not him; the voice, the infection, the tone, it just was not right. That should have been a red flag, but I honestly thought he was talking in his sleep.
The influence upon him while in that house got progressively worse and he began having horrible thoughts about me, hated the simple sound of my voice and the sight of me walking across the room. Voices were telling him I was ugly, mean, cheating, no good for him, laughing at him, plotting against him and so much more. The influence to “get rid” of me grew to the point that he had actually planned out how he was going to kill me when I got home one day. Fortunately, he had left the house to pick up our infant son at his mother’s house. The simple act of leaving the house temporarily lifted the oppressive thoughts and hateful thoughts towards me. We actually moved from the house within the month. Tony is thankful for this because he truly believes that he would be in jail today if we had stayed. I had no idea of this experience until months after we had moved out and it is still hard for me to comprehend because these actions and thoughts are simply not relative to the gentle loving person that Tony is.
Are there any last comments you would like to add, including any misconceptions about the Sallie House you would like to clear up?
No matter how much we warn people away from this house, they want to experience it all that more. People do not realize or refuse to realize the possible dangers that they or their family will be up against when they involve themselves in any way with the house. The influences works so subtly that they often go unnoticed until the is a real concern for the safety or mental state of the individuals being effected. It is not un common for someone to go to the house (not even enter it but just stand outside of it) and a few days or weeks later send us a distressing email. They see dark shadows, hear voices and feel watched in their own home. Their dreams are filled with killing or harming loved ones, their disposition changes, they feel an overwhelming compulsion to get back to the house. Some individuals have reported unexplained scratches and strange activity around their children. They each become terrified as negative events, experiences and activity are heightened and their lives deteriorate. With a lot of work and early detection of the influences and attachments they are dealing with, we have help or put them in touch with someone that can help in the battle against these unseen forces. The sad thing is, once you have been touched by something like this you are never the same, and it is a constant battle to remain free of the influences that sporadically reach out from that house.
Many may think that these claims are far fetched, drummed up for the sake of putting out a challenge to others (an invite), bring more attention to the house, our story and perhaps even ourselves. In our opinion, people can think or say what they want. We would be terribly remiss to the public if we did not warn them of the potential this house and its entities have. I would rather err on the side of caution and never feel that we allowed any one to put themselves in jeopardy without making available all the information we had for them to make a well informed decision about visiting the house. Ultimately it is a personal choice.
We believe completely that is was our religious faith that protected from the intrusive elements of that house. We continue to grow in our faith as we know that it continues to keep us safe. In putting ourselves out there and warning others of the torment that can all too easily become a reality, we take the chance of continued judgment and ridicule, but we believe that we went through this experience in order to warn others of the devastation that the unseen forces around us can impose and how faith will protect us.
Years ago we stopped trying to validate, to others, our story and claims. We don’t have anything to prove or anyone to impress. We simply make the information and evidence available, try to help people in similar situations and hope that others in the field may be able to use elements of our case as a resource.
For anyone looking for information on the house and this haunting, I invite them to visit www.thesalliehouse.comThe site is solely dedicated to only this haunting; there is no advertising, no donation buttons and no membership fees; it is completely free and personally funded by four co-founding individuals. The site has links to everything we can find on the Sallie house; Youtube, Amazon, 3rd party investigations and more. There is a photo gallery with over 300 photos, an EVP gallery with over 80 audio clips, a discussion forum, historical records, newspaper articles, ancestry details, times lines and so much more.
What would be your best advice for anyone who is considering investigating this home?
Don’t, and if you do, you best be secure in your faith and keep it very, very close.
Thank you, your questions were awesome and it is so imperative that anyone with the potential of visiting the house be aware of the distinctly valuable information we try to provide. Whether it is believed or not, the ramifications should be considered by all and I would like to thank Grey Zone Paranormal for giving me the opportunity to present such information to the public
Thank you Debra and Tony Pickman .We greatly appreciate your taking the time to talk with us and answer our questions...The Grey Zone Team.